From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 2 12:50:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4EA1065670 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2116D8FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q62Cq6IW032824; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:52:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q62Cq6FH032820; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:52:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:52:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: j.m.cooper@borgsdemons.com In-Reply-To: <4FF1904E.7040604@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <201207021054.22814.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <201207021126.38116.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4FF1904E.7040604@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KMS Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:50:14 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > On 07/02/12 02:58, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa >>> wrote: >>>> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 02, 2012 11:13:56 AM Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, July 02, 2012 10:16:43 AM Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> please correct me, if I misunderstood something about KMS . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I built xorg-7.7 on FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 11 23:48:45 >>>>>>>> CEST 2 amd64 . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I do a plain >>>>>>>> # startx >>>>>>>> (no xorg.conf set) I receive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sudo kldload i915kms >>>>>>> sudo kldload acpi_call >>>>>>> sudo chmod 666 /dev/acpi >>>>>>> startx >>>>>> Actually this is my question: I cannot kldload these two modules >>>>>> because I don't have them. I believed I wouldn't need them since >>>>>> I don't have any Intel-chipset. Do I need them anyway? >>>>> >>>>> ok, then we need more information. What kind of machine do you have? CPU >>>>> and GPU? >>>> I have got an amd64 CPU and some ATI Radeon graphics chip. As far as I >>> have >>>> heard the latter isn't well supported, but I don't mind for now: It >>> should >>>> at least be able to run the default vesa driver. >>>> >>>> >>>>> To my knowledge, KMS needs an Intel i3, i5 or i7 to work. You cannot use >>>>> KMS with all other CPUs. >>>>> >>>>> You also do not need it if you have another GPU you want to use it in >>> the >>>>> system. >>>> So I have to patch my base system anyway? >>>> Where can I get the latest patches? >>>> >>>> Peter. >>>> >>>>> Erich >>>>> >>> 11 June is just about the date that the updates were all merged into >>> 9-Stable. I suggesting updating sources to at least 15 Jun (or, better >>> still, today) and buidl that. No additional patches are needed. DO NOT >>> SET "WITH_KMS"! KMS is ONLY for Intel CPU/GPU processors. You can give >>> it a try WITH_NEW_XORG, though. If you don't have KMS, you will not >>> have i915-kms.ko, so don't worry. (Maybe someone will volunteer to >> write an AMD/ATi KMS driver some day, but no one has to date.) >>> You might try an initial startx with no Xorg.conf file. It usually >>> works. You probably won't have a need for acpi_call, either, and it is >>> from the acpi_call port and not part of the base system. It lets you >>> poke at ACPI paramters. O.K. - so first I try to rebuild base. I have already got WITH_NEW_XORG in my /etc/make.conf . Support for AMD/ATI can't be worse than it was with xorg-7.5 . For now I would be happy to get some kind of gui back - even with VESA driver. Thanks for your help so far - I will report what happens. Greetings Peter. >>> -- >>> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer >>> E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com >> >> >> I have WITH_KMS ( and WITH_NEW_XORG ) set on my laptop which uses the >> nvidia binary driver. Works like a charm. >> >> But I agree with proposed solution: update sources and rebuild. >> >> Have you done the xorgmerge step? >> >> Best regards >> Andreas >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > I also have WITH_KMS and WITH_NEW_XORG set on my HP G7 which has an AMD > Vision A4 chipset and is running under the X11 vesa driver. I built it up > from source after cleaning off the machine. Works fine. > -- > John M. Cooper > > -- > -- > John M. Cooper > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | Wuppertal | Germany