From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 19 15:08:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC48216A4BF for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C4B43FF7 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003091922074801500etmsme>; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:07:48 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8JM6K4d004133; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8JM6FmK004132; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:06:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: chat@freebsd.org References: <20030919164821.2b1d18d1.max@willystudios.com> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:06:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: ( =?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav's_message_of?= "Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:41:41 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: Spelling X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:08:04 -0000 des@des.no (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) writes: > The mascot came before the name. Well, it's easy to believe that the mascot came before the naming of the mascot. :) But AFAIK, the acronym "BSD" came 5 to 6 years before the mascot so it's hard for me to believe that the mascot came before "beastie" was used in relation to BSD or before it was used as a name (for BSD). But it's easy to believe that that did not help prompt the creation of the mascot, though I suspect that only John Lasseter knows. (1) If someone knows when and how beastie got it's name, please tell us. AFAIK, it's not documented anywhere. (2) Back to the original topic, this http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#DAEMON-NAME says that "beastie" is pronounced "BSD". By VERY few, I'm guessing. Footnotes -- (-) BSD was started by Bill Joy in 1976. (1) AFAIK, the mascot was first published with some "4.2 BSD" documentation in 1982 or 1983. Several sources say that the original image (from which similar images that we are familiar with) was created by John Lasseter who later assigned his copyrights to McKusick. (I have no idea why McKusick's copyright claim uses 1988.) Neither of McKusick's "history" page or his book chapter or any of several other history pages I found says when the "beastie" name appeared. (2) Neither of McKusick's "history" sub-site (dig past the advertising) or his book chapter or any other history I found gives any history of the name "beastie". http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html http://minnie.tuhs.org/BSD-info/BSD.html http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/bsdaemon/