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Date:      Wed, 06 Oct 1999 05:22:26 +0100
From:      Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
To:        Richard Morte <ric@sinclairassoc.force9.co.uk>
Cc:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ppp -auto is trigger-happy 
Message-ID:  <199910060422.FAA04816@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:23:00 BST." <37FA7A44.9290918B@sinclairassoc.force9.co.uk> 

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> Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 09:25:48AM +1200, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Richard Morte wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone help explain why ppp in -auto -alias mode dials out as soon
> > > > > as I click in the location field in Netscape? Do I need to set up IP
> > > > > filtering? Without some sort of filtering or additional configuration I
> > > > > don't seem to be able to browse documents on the local machine without
> > > > > accessing the modem.
> > > >
> > > > Netscape does a DNS lookup the very first chance it gets. This will
> > > > cause a dialout, unless you've blocked DNS from activating a callout.
> > > >
> > > I'm having the same problems.  In fact, even starting the enlightenment config program causes ppp -auto to dial up.  Same thing when sending mail from within mutt.  Even though I have told sendmail to queue messages (sendmail -0 DeliveryMode=d -O HoldExpensive).  Actually what it does is dial up, then stick them in the queue without delivering them. I assume that these are also caused because of DNS lookups.
> > >
> > >
> > > So anyway, I'd really like to be disable DNS lookups from causing ppp -auto to dial. How can I do this? I assume that I want to re-enable DNS in ppp.linkup.
> > >
> > > Thanks a ton,
> > > Tiller
> > 
> > You may want to stick your hostname in /etc/hosts - blocking DNS is
> > probably the wrong way to go as it'll make on-demand dialing
> > practically useless.
> > 
> > Look into ``ndc'' to find out what's being looked up and put this
> > stuff in /etc/hosts if you can :-)
> > --
> > Brian <brian@Awfulhak.org>                        <brian@FreeBSD.org>
> >       <http://www.Awfulhak.org>;                   <brian@OpenBSD.org>
> > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour !          <brian@FreeBSD.org.uk>
> > 
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> 
> Brian,
> 
> Thanks for your reply. I'm not at all familiar with ndc's output so I
> guess you are referring to the stuff output by dumpdb - only there's so
> much of it. However, I've been running named with the -d1 flag and this
> seems to pick up all the requests in named.run.

This sounds like the best option :-)

> When Netscape was first installed, it reported that it couldn't find the
> host for 'home. netscape.com' (or something like this). I assume
> Netscape is configured to 'phone home, if only for the Netscape server
> to set a cookie...

I believe this is just the default home page.

> I cannot detect any current dns lookups for netscape.com. However, the
> following lookups are made when Netscape starts up now (output from
> named.run):
> 
> news.force9.net
> usenet.force9.net
> usenet.plus.net.uk
> mail.force9.net
> relay.force9.net
> 
> These are all for Messenger. They are produced as soon as the browser
> alone starts up (without even starting Mesenger). Since my ISP provides
> server-assigned addresses I am not sure I can put any of this stuff in
> /etc/hosts because the IP addresses change with each new connection.
> 
> What do you suggest/

Hmm, maybe you need to run your own local mail relay and news 
server...

> many Thanks,
> 
> Ric

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