From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 15 21:16:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF2837B401; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-232-220-15.client.attbi.com [12.232.220.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D69443E77; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAG5G82q016781; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gAG5G6Wm016780; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:16:06 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Robert Watson Cc: Sheldon Hearn , Soeren Schmidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/acd*t* no longer available in -current? Message-ID: <20021116051606.GB16666@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Watson , Sheldon Hearn , Soeren Schmidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021115091313.GK76728@starjuice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Robert Watson : > So one thing we could start doing is have sysinstall's adduser stuff offer > to place new users in the operator group, and set up the default > permissions on removable devices such that the operator group has > read/write access to them (or even just read-access). This would be > logically equivilent to placing users in an admin group at instlal on > Windows or Mac OS X. Operator access connotes the ability to shut down > the system in FreeBSD, as well as the ability to dump file systems, etc. > Another possibility would be to evolve our notion of console user based on > fbtab some for workstation configurations. I think putting new users in the operator group, even as a default-off option, is more liberal than necessary. Using fbtab to allow access to removable and audio devices seems like the right thing to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message