From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 9 19:53:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9351D32 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f50.google.com (mail-qa0-f50.google.com [209.85.216.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D91F96F for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id cr7so999151qab.16 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:53:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xLYOVYS9pPqlYdjz7NnCVMSP9svUwiJevmPtE5CSGyU=; b=iBViodQ/rDBWw9b0XaFhzvdNFLvvUCzp2DIUrXSfhTX3LO0DgcZyHLlbwm3mcTK/Mv fqmC8CpyNFRXZ5qjD7XcoO8asRB9dvbssBgRGbusQGmmMN5VOGlnUhmXq6A2Vf2OXhuq JmLbCwfxqdjyyTO428PP+2gBU0ILJjPl24FvmgUUKBngWvhtxwBEiPskPYfBesSVP2HR RjjRYv8tk/YHcfHBUriXLqCr6QwM+OOeLEjJeugv6OGebM8/13ZIjkeRnChlyRjLnEab ibTtBKNjQFh7KcIdHF2VxEHY2K837HwLlC8EJactu/Fv1j1DT263RH47TkeCXVuIMo/N qUMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.183.75 with SMTP id cf11mr53427658qab.82.1357761217679; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.128.168 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:53:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50ED799F.5060102@aldan.algebra.com> References: <50EADA33.9010308@aldan.algebra.com> <50EB16B2.4070502@FreeBSD.org> <50EB1991.8010400@marino.st> <87txqro2jw.fsf@FreeBSD.org> <50EC8004.4020106@marino.st> <87mwwjnuws.fsf@FreeBSD.org> <1357689775652-5775952.post@n5.nabble.com> <50ED799F.5060102@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:53:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why delete KDE3 ports? From: Adam Vande More To: "Mikhail T." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:53:43 -0000 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Mikhail T. wrote: > Worse, KDE4 is not only much heavier (which could've been acceptable). This is simply not true, or at least easily remediable. A few clicks leads to nice UI experience with roughly the same amount of overheard as the 3.x series. There are a number of quasi-legit investigations into the matter. Regardless of those methodologies, at the end of the day KDE4 requires only slightly more memory than 3 if at all. > It is also not compatible -- people like myself, who customized their > desktops with additional menus, who created knotes, etc. will have to redo > all of their settings. KDE4, as built, is not even going to look under the > ~/.kde. Though it can be compiled to consider the old directory, the > format/syntax for many of the config-files has changed -- and there is no > "upgrade path". I don't use knotes, but have you tried the solution here? http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=84823 > This can all be handled, but meanwhile, until there ARE actual problems, > leave the ports alone, please. "Actual problems" have already been cited for it. Fighting change can often lead much more wasted effort than simply adjusting to modern offerings. It's easy enough to pull the port out of archive for the small amount of users who will insist on using a deprecated DE with known security issues. I don't think it reflects well on the project to continue to offer this as an option, and IMO at the very least needs to come with a blinking red light disclaimer if the port continues to exist. Jakub Lach: > In spite of not having 'proper' maintainer both kdelibs3/ and kdebas3/ saw substantial interest in form of patches Not recently, unless you mean bulk patches for patches to options framework, clang, or some other general change such as http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=297915 -- Adam Vande More