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Date:      Fri, 12 May 2023 07:01:34 +0900
From:      Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
To:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: c16e08e5f324 - main - stand/efi: Retire i386 support
Message-ID:  <20230512070134.eb633400d68cf7c0813d7fde@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
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On Thu, 11 May 2023 23:08:30 +0200
Yuri <yuri@aetern.org> wrote:

> Warner Losh wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, May 11, 2023, 2:50 PM Rodney W. Grimes
> > <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net <mailto:freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >     > On Thu, May 11, 2023, 2:16 PM Yuri <yuri@aetern.org
> >     <mailto:yuri@aetern.org>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > > Warner Losh wrote:
> >     > > > The branch main has been updated by imp:
> >     > > >
> >     > > > URL:
> >     > >
> >     https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=c16e08e5f324aa119c85e10eaabacbd2abdb40e0 <https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=c16e08e5f324aa119c85e10eaabacbd2abdb40e0>;
> >     > > >
> >     > > > commit c16e08e5f324aa119c85e10eaabacbd2abdb40e0
> >     > > > Author:     Warner Losh <imp@FreeBSD.org>
> >     > > > AuthorDate: 2023-05-11 20:04:12 +0000
> >     > > > Commit:     Warner Losh <imp@FreeBSD.org>
> >     > > > CommitDate: 2023-05-11 20:06:03 +0000
> >     > > >
> >     > > >     stand/efi: Retire i386 support
> >     > > >
> >     > > >     Remove the i386 ifdefs and files. It never worked.
> >     > > >
> >     > > >     Sponsored by:           Netflix
> >     > > >     Reviewed by:            manu, tsoome, kevans
> >     > > >     Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D40012
> >     <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D40012>;
> >     > >
> >     > > As this question seems to be asked a lot on the forums, does
> >     this mean
> >     > > we will never support the 32bit efi booting 64bit OS?
> >     > >
> >     >
> >     > Yes. It means we've given up on that. Such environments are rare these
> >     > days, as far as I know, so unless someone shows up with something that
> >     > works perfectly with a qemu testing recipe that we can roll it
> >     into out
> >     > test bed. Plus some kind of info on real hardware that does this
> >     that's
> >     > popular enough to justify inclusion.
> > 
> >     I have only ever seen 1 implementation of x86 32bit efi, and it was
> >     such a pile of turds I just scrapped the machine.
> > 
> > 
> > That was my experience as well, so I biased my action towards just
> > removing it. If it turns out my experience was somehow atypical and
> > these are popular and very much robust, I'm open to learning about it.
> 
> I just noticed that it was asked several times in the last few months
> trying to use FreeBSD on not-so-modern and rather exotic hardware; I
> don't think we really need that support, but I simply wasn't aware of
> efi32 status before this commit, hence I asked :)

Just a FYI.

A subscriber (not me) tried ASUS EeeBook X205TA (manufactured "2015-04")
through Mar.18, 2021 to Apr.13, 2021 without luck on freebsd-usrs-jp ML
(in Japanese, started from [1], [2] for April).

Atom CPU Z3735F @1.33GHz, 2GB RAM
Shipped with "Windows 8.1 with Bing (32bit)" installed.

[1]
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-users-jp/2021-March/001728.html

[2]
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-users-jp/2021-April/001746.html


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Tomoaki AOKI]    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>



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