Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:55:10 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> To: Oleg Lelchuk <oleglelchuk@gmail.com> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Transforming GNOME Into A Linux-Only Project (link) Message-ID: <4DD53D5E.1070105@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=ynuUyW7ZZ5e6PPvzcMx5dW8F_cw@mail.gmail.com> References: <1305746792.1538.11.camel@xenon> <4DD4DB50.3040402@freebsd.org> <BANLkTi=Mafs55LVrPmpshMgbPPb08CZ4vw@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTi=ynuUyW7ZZ5e6PPvzcMx5dW8F_cw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 5/19/11 11:29 AM, Oleg Lelchuk wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Oleg Lelchuk <oleglelchuk@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Transforming GNOME Into A Linux-Only Project (link) > To: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> > > > Well, I can still start gnome-3.0.1 on my freebsd machine, though if I don't > mount procfs, it crashes. I know that procfs is a linux thing. Kind of. FreeBSD's use of procfs is very different, but it was easier in places to use quick calls to procfs rather than convert code to use kvm. Newer modules have been changed, though, to avoid procfs. Hal is the holdout. Joe > > > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>wrote: > >> On 5/18/11 3:26 PM, Michal Varga wrote: >>> I'll just leave this here as I'm basically speechless, and it's probably >>> not worth commenting anyway. >>> >>> But for those who might be interested and don't necessarily keep up with >>> the latest 'news', clicky: >>> >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ1Nw >> >> GNOME has been heading down this path since 2.0 was released. It's been >> a slow process, but the decisions that were made around hal, devkit, >> etc. are unmistakable signs that GNOME is abandoning the OSS desktop in >> favor of a Linux desktop. >> >> Is this a bad idea? Yes and no. These days, people expect a desktop to >> have a tight OS integration. They like the ability to have mobility, >> hardware awareness, sexy graphics, etc. as part of their desktop >> experience. So a desktop can't be completely OS-agnostic. However, >> what GNOME and fd.o could have been better about is to make truly open, >> well-documented standards so that vendors like Solaris and *BSD could >> plug in bits to provide OS integration. Say what you will about hal, >> but hal had this. The udev stuff does not. >> >> To me, GNOME could add OS-level integration and provide clear >> delineation as to what is PI and what is PD. The PD stuff should have >> open specifications. That's the OSS model. But if the GNOME guys want >> to make GNOME into the Linux OS, that's their call. GNOME 2.x is still >> open. Perhaps the fork efforts being discussed will take off. >> >> Joe >> >> -- >> Joe Marcus Clarke >> FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org >> FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
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