From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 23 18:26:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA15959 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 23 May 1996 18:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com (kitty.oester.com [206.25.136.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15950 for ; Thu, 23 May 1996 18:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fatcat.oester.com by kitty.oester.com (8.7.3/1.37) id BAA11191; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:25:30 GMT Message-ID: <31A50FEF.6306@oester.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:25:03 -0700 From: "G.R.Gircys" Organization: Oesterreich & Assc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SPAM - Can we make it stop! References: <199605232205.PAA08459@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Instead of fighting spam with spam, just don't buy anything from them, > ever, at any future time. Works for me. Eventually, they won't be > able to make any money from it, and they'll stop (worst case) or go > bankrupt (best case). > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.orgterry, i know you for your fine contributions to various nobel efforts, but you are wrong on this issue and in your strategy. they will not stop; even a spoiled spam makes money. to borrow part of a reply from jim dennis: Unfortunately these companies often don't go out of business, even if all the offended parties boycott them indefinitely. Their spamming is only one of many marketing efforts -- and they'll often never realize how many sales they've lost due to their behavior. Any sales they do make are indications of "success" and no marketer is going to say "our low sales are do to our piss-poor marketing strategy and blatant disregard for the values of our target audience" (well, some might -- but only to oust someone else out of a job). jim is right! what's wrong with your strategy is that it ignores my rights; and ignores the cumulative cost to consumers and cumulative rights. i have had it. spamming must stop. it is cyberwar. this is the value i place on my cyberrights and unless we fight, slowly we will lose them. my opinion - you have a right to yours; but i feel strongely enough about this to tell you you are wrong. i also feel like no one cares - so far no interest in cyberwar :-( rich