From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:37:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E7D16A4CE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta7.adelphia.net (mta7.adelphia.net [68.168.78.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5405243FDD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:37:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com ([68.68.113.33]) by mta7.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031104233741.UNTL1445.mta7.adelphia.net@potentialtech.com>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:37:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8382F.50204@potentialtech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:37:19 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20031104192215.GA848@online.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do hackers drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:37:39 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Rahul Siddharthan writes: > >>The most bicycle-friendly country I've seen is the Netherlands. > > Bicycle-friendly, but lethal for pedestrians. Dutch cyclists treat > pedestrians with the same contempt as drivers to cyclists in most > other countries... Are you serious? That doesn't sound possible. I mean, a car can collide with a bicycle and cause no damage to the driver. The psychotic driver can have the twisted pleasure of having hurt or killed a cyclist with little more than an insurance claim to fix the cosmetic damager to his vehicle. A cyclist, OTOH, will generally do a similar amount of damage to himself as he does to the pedestrian he collides with. So I would think there is a certain amount of self-preservation that prevents cyclists from colliding with pedestrians. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com