From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Sep 30 03:42:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA25458 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 03:42:19 -0700 Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA25449 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 03:42:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA20453; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:47:08 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199509301047.LAA20453@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 will require a minimum of 8MB for installation. To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:47:08 +0100 (MET) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509300815.BAA18393@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Sep 30, 95 01:15:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1670 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > It's not like there isn't precedent. Even Windows '95, so pointedly > > an OS for the masses, apparently will no longer even run in less than > > 8MB. We, at least, aren't saying *that*. It's still perfectly > > possible to generate a custom, stripped-down kernel that'll run on a > > 4MB box (though not very fast), you'll just have to lay your hands on > > an extra 4MB to get it through the installation. For some machines (e.g. laptops) it is too expensive to add memory, often they use special modules or just don't have the slots. I think we can manage by making it not too hard for 4MB users to build their own boot floppy (on a guest system, if it cannot be supplied as default). > Jordan. > for the cdrom there should be an instal floppy with NO NETWORKING I believe the networking code is fundamental -- all system have a network port, the serial port! And you can probably save much more space by removing the SCSI stuff. I think most portables and other small, old systems have IDE disks. If a separate floppy must exist (on the CDROM), I would not sacrifice the networking code. > I think this is REALLY IMPORTANT > If you don't, > the linux crew are going to have a field day over this one! Agreed. I am more worried about the users we loose. Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ====================================================================