Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:38:53 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rewrite cvsup & portupgrade in C Message-ID: <20040707163853.GA7063@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <p06002039bd11631ca135@[10.0.1.3]> References: <E1Bhd1M-000KEo-Nz@smp500.sitetronics.com> <200407062323.02854.kirk@strauser.com> <20040707043251.GA35651@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <200407062345.24117.kirk@strauser.com> <20040707070012.GC38356@dragon.nuxi.com> <p06002039bd11631ca135@[10.0.1.3]>
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 10:23:16AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 12:00 AM -0700 2004-07-07, David O'Brien wrote: > > > JDP choose M3 because it was a very good language for the job -- C and > > C++ isn't. We've gone too far in our snooty opinion that if it ain't > > C/C++ it is crap. Modula-3, Ada, and Eiffel are very fine application > > languages, and CVSup is an _application_. > > I'm confused. Once these applications are in binary form, what > difference does it make what language they were written in? HUGE! Well maybe not HUGE, but huge. Languages such as Ada and Modula-3 actually do bounds checking on arrays, for instance. The safety and correctness of an application running depends on the language it is written in. We should have a LOT less buffer overflows if an application language were used for web servers, mail servers, and other network daemons. > Is cvsup not available as a binary-only package that can be installed? > Are you required to build it from source, which is why you have to > install ezm3 as well? You are not required to build it from source -- Kris Kennaway does an excellent job doing that for you. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
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