From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:48:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4AC1065675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513998FC26 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so469079fxm.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f3XyWh2TDJ4G/fDnDp+hHW60gUbx8ZvYKP9eu0jck3A=; b=RPfXSqYEugwZCCMwJiXtfBsvgnf7cPaY5r59bLIvrcXOvQkMFXPRLF44EEp/O1paa1 7c6bcT5c2ydUnkA6/tvD8E1cGs79Bpp/vdQbxQ2Zk+icG4SuXWwQsfyX/wx2iAIh90jS 03HbpZi8XrUSbfhy+aVyfzypNixZwrysX+/1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ekbHIi3vriERtEFn3Ow7dmIKofkYV0bY8Ir97TGeGaLGEUFHpG1hT00QCZ1P1t6VQC u+zmo3KRJUu70lp24MBM52vBTkdFkGwG27tsKgYM/IBp+sUJbyb7v7In8PnGptHyqQ6s g/dtIvIvi9iRWC2OVJ39SEdils6DmyoEs4/LI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.11.7 with SMTP id o7mr1093109mui.103.1239264890001; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:14:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> From: n j Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:14:33 +0200 Message-ID: <92bcbda50904090114r2924d03p606d30a7fc91f84d@mail.gmail.com> To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:48:07 -0000 I'd like to use this opportunity to generally support this and any other ideas taking direction of making binary installs and upgrades easier and more manageable. I recognize the need for people to configure custom options and compile from ports (that is why any new system *must* be compatible with ports), however, it should be noted that there's a lot of people running simple LAMP servers, almost exclusively using default options, who would greatly benefit from better binary package support. I've already ranted about this (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-December/188119.html) in a slightly different context (I talked about -SECURITY equivalent instead of -DESKTOP that the OP suggests) with almost the same idea - make it easy for people who are interested in running stable, secure servers do binary upgrades without the hassle of going through a major system recompile because of, for example, openldap shared library version bump. Regards, -- Nino