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Date:      Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:02:08 -0700
From:      Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
To:        questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: building a 14.1 workstation
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 12:45=E2=80=AFPM Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> wrote:

> Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
> So glad to hear about the auto-build improvements!  That's awesome!
>
> This is a huge improvement!  I have a datapoint from 2023-11-09 where
> after 27 hours the build was reporting 28% done at that time last
> year.  At that time I was waiting for a fixed sudo to build and for
> reasons at the time it was not in the current build and I was waiting
> for it to finish and then start the NEXT build's version for the fix.
> Which was quite the wait.  I use Quarterly.  Just to give an example
> of how much a 34 hour build is an improvement over the previous. :-)
>

Note that it's 140amd64-default that is on the new hardware. It looks like
140amd64-quarterly is in the works, but I don't think it's production.I
think 140i386-default is in or near production.

I have been trying to skill myself up to read the auto-build logs more
> proficiently.  A few other people have helped to teach me some hints
> about how to read them which has been very helpful.
>
> For example my own home networking situation is currently still IPv4
> only.  (Yes, I know, in 2024.)  Yet some of the auto-build network is
> stitched together using only IPv6 DNS names.  It's possible to
> carefully navigate around it using IPv4 only but it is more
> challenging.  Sometimes I simply decide to wait a couple of days
> knowing that eventually everything will work out.
>

The main support guy for the build systems posted that proxies for the
build systems will be available VERY soon or already are. They provide IPv4
access. Adding the new systems to pkg-status listing sounds like it is very
close. (Jut checked, so not yet.) He is a volunteer with a real job, so his
time is very limited and he's very busy. No idea if his employer is
providing any time to him. (No idea who he works for.)
--=20
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 12:45=
=E2=80=AFPM Bob Proulx &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bob@proulx.com">bob@proulx.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Kevin Oberman wrote:<br><br>
So glad to hear about the auto-build improvements!=C2=A0 That&#39;s awesome=
!<br>
<br>
This is a huge improvement!=C2=A0 I have a datapoint from 2023-11-09 where<=
br>
after 27 hours the build was reporting 28% done at that time last<br>
year.=C2=A0 At that time I was waiting for a fixed sudo to build and for<br=
>
reasons at the time it was not in the current build and I was waiting<br>
for it to finish and then start the NEXT build&#39;s version for the fix.<b=
r>
Which was quite the wait.=C2=A0 I use Quarterly.=C2=A0 Just to give an exam=
ple<br>
of how much a 34 hour build is an improvement over the previous. :-)<br></b=
lockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><div><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Note that it&#39;s 140amd64-defa=
ult that is on the new hardware. It looks like 140amd64-quarterly is in the=
 works, but I don&#39;t think it&#39;s production.I think 140i386-default i=
s in or near production. <br></span></div><div><span class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"></span><br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I have been trying to skill myself up to read the auto-build logs more<br>
proficiently.=C2=A0 A few other people have helped to teach me some hints<b=
r>
about how to read them which has been very helpful.<br>
<br>
For example my own home networking situation is currently still IPv4<br>
only.=C2=A0 (Yes, I know, in 2024.)=C2=A0 Yet some of the auto-build networ=
k is<br>
stitched together using only IPv6 DNS names.=C2=A0 It&#39;s possible to<br>
carefully navigate around it using IPv4 only but it is more<br>
challenging.=C2=A0 Sometimes I simply decide to wait a couple of days<br>
knowing that eventually everything will work out.<br></blockquote><div><br>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D=
"gmail_default"> The main support guy for the build systems posted that pro=
xies for the build systems will be available VERY soon or already are. They=
 provide IPv4 access. Adding the new systems to pkg-status listing sounds l=
ike it is very close. (Jut checked, so not yet.) He is a volunteer with a r=
eal job, so his time is very limited and he&#39;s very busy. No idea if his=
 employer is providing any time to him. (No idea who he works for.)<br></di=
v></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder an=
d retired Network Engineer<br>E-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">rkoberman@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>PGP Fingerprint: =
D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683</div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div>

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