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Date:      Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:02:38 +0100 (CET)
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        green@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        sw@anthologeek.net, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/lang Makefile ports/lang/icc Makefile distinfo pkg-comment pkg-descr pkg-plist ports/lang/icc/files patch-include
Message-ID:  <200203271402.g2RE2ch3017230@Magelan.Leidinger.net>
In-Reply-To: <200203271333.g2RDXsZ96421@green.bikeshed.org>

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On 27 Mär, Brian F. Feldman wrote:

>> icc understands parts of gcc specific attributes and the gcc assembly
>> syntax (at least parts of it, if I remember correctly). To use MS syntax
>> you have to specify the "-use_msasm" option. So it may not be that
>> impossible to support both...
>> 
>> But the Linux kernel isn't icc compilable too, so it's not that much of
>> a drawback...
> 
> Hm, I didn't know it would actually use AT&T syntax instead of Intel!  
> That's definitely unexpected.

I think Intel wants icc as an drop in replacement (sort of, it has
-KPIC instead of -fPIC) to get better performance figures on Linux.

BTW.: 
 - Don't use inter-object-optimizations (no, this doesn't work on
   FreeBSD, it's done at link time) with icc, there's a bug
   (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hes-11.11.01-000/, may the
   fish be with you).
 - If someone from Intel's icc department is listening: I want something
   like gcc's -nostartfiles and -nostdlib, this should enable us to even
   link with icc (a native icc would be even better).
   
>> >> > What about servers like Apache (it would be great for busy servers) ?
>> >> 
>> >> I've seen this speed improvement in FPU intensive code (no MMX or SIMD
>> >> used, plain FPU code, testet on an AMD Duron). I don't expect such a
>> >> large speed improvement in "ordinary server code". And trust me, it
>> >> would be a lot of hassle to get apache compiled with icc.
>> > 
>> > I got Ruby compiled with icc some weeks back and I seem to recall around a 
>> > 20% speed improvement, as well.  An interpreter is a good benchmark for a 
>> > compiler's ability to generate both fast and correct code :)
>> 
>> Awesome. Now... what about "cd .../ruby; make -DUSE_ICC"? ;-)
> 
> I didn't test it with FreeBSD headers building FreeBSD executables, so I'll 
> have to try that and make sure binary compatibility exists, too :)

It was a joke. Ruby uses autoconf, so it's a nightmare to do a port
which builds it with icc.

Bye,
Alexander.

-- 
            The dark ages were caused by the Y1K problem.

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