From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 8 15:40:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D24537B401 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E7743E31 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020708224007.URHS903.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:40:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31074; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Terry Lambert Cc: Luigi Rizzo , Matthew Dillon , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive. In-Reply-To: <3D2A0C13.BF96579@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks > > > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure), > > > e.g. SCSI. > > > > This is an urban ledgend.. > > That SCSI disks don't use random inter-record gap placement like > IDE does, particularly on the "multimedia" drives that ignore the > need for thermal recalibration, so as to not make video capture > "jittery"? > > Or that SCSI II directly supports low level track formatting, > without requiring a "magic tool"? > > 8-) 8-). According to the specs I had access to at Whistle they were pretty much the same low level device with different interface logic. The ATA drives I have seen had a format capacity just like their scsi cousins, just hard to find. > > -- Terry > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message