Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> To: Dan Lukes <dan@obluda.cz> Cc: freebsd security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, security-officer@freebsd.org, Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon Message-ID: <20061012021223.X521@qbhto.arg> In-Reply-To: <452DF218.3090902@obluda.cz> References: <451F6E8E.8020301@freebsd.org> <20061011102106.GY1594@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> <20061011151458.L97038@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <20061011083021.C2780@treehorn.dfmm.org> <p06230910c152cf2743ce@[128.113.24.47]> <452D7351.6050804@obluda.cz> <p06240800c15328312263@[128.113.24.47]> <452DF218.3090902@obluda.cz>
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Dan Lukes wrote:
> But, maybe for my poor knowledge of english, you misunderstand the
> point of my think.
Your English is quite good, actually. :)
> The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for
> 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported hardware - I speaked about
> performance in some situation and believe in it's stability.
>
> It has been serie of decisions of commiters and release team that
> create current situation and all I say is, the resulting situation is not
> good because we must drop product when worse replacement available only.
I think saying that it's a worse replacement is a bit too broad. There are
many cases where 6.x performs better than 4.x. However, to say that 6.x is
always better would also be too broad (in addition to being demonstrably
false).
The key (as I stated in a previous mail) is for those that are seeing
performance problems to jump in and help make it better. You are partially
correct when you say that the developer community is only interested in more
recent issues. I say partially because while in some cases it may be an
"attention span" issue as you suggest, it's also due to the fact that as a
project we've made an architectural decision to move forward along the path
we're on. The "way of the future" is further down this road, not backing up
to the 4.x days. Therefore, if 6.x is not working for you, for whatever
reason, it's time to get in the game.
> Despite of anything I sayd, we should thank for the whole team for
> it's work. I'm sure anybody do all he can.
Thanks! I don't think anyone would misinterpret your tone as harsh, or
inappropriate. You've very effectively made your case for why you want
support to continue. I hope that those who've responded have made their
reasons equally clear for why that is not likely to happen.
Doug
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