From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 10 12:10:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cybersurf.net (smtp2.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA67437B423 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from 3web.net ([209.197.155.144]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBLBY100.B3X for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:10:49 -0600 Received: by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSAgent 1.22b Service) ; Tue, 10 Apr 01 13:09:51 -0600 for Received: from 3web.net (10.0.0.2) by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSSmtp 1.23f Service) ; Tue, 10 Apr 01 11:34:30 -0600 for Received: by mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:34:05 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:34:04 -0600 From: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: BSDi Acquired by Embedded Computing Firm Wind River Message-ID: <20010410113403.C206595@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Ted Mittelstaedt , FreeBSD References: <001f01c0c192$603efaa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001f01c0c192$603efaa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from "Ted Mittelstaedt" on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:46:39AM X-Envelope-Receiver: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:46:39AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > When discussing desktops and servers in context together, here > is the definition: Once again, more pieces to the Unix (et al) jig-saw.... ;) > Server: That which is intended and generally provides services to desktops, > over the network. > > Desktop: That which is primary purpose is to serve as a user interface > between the human and the services provided by servers on the network. So the "dumb terminal" hung on a DEC mainframe that I use to have in my office would then fall into this category? Is it then accurate to say that the terms "workstation" and "client" also fall into this category in a distributed processing model? > But, before we forget, there's one other type of system: > > standalone: A host that is intended and generally uses services that it > provides itself, and where network connectivity is not particularly critical > to it's operation. So a "standalone" can behave as both a server *and* a client/desktop/WS? > Basically, a desktop is used by one person to access resources > on the network. A server is used by many people that are accessing > it's resources over the network. A standalone is used by a person that's > only using services provided by that machine - regardless of whether it's > connected to a network or not. > > Of course, many corporate networks are somewhat fuzzy, in that often > users may spend much time running Word or Excel and just using their > own desktop's resources. But, then when it's time to share their > files they copy them up to a server, or e-mail them to each other, > they usually don't share out sections of their hard disk. In these > cases the intent, particular by the corporation, is that the desktop > system does not provide services on the network. Also, the intent > by the corporation is that the user assigned to the desktop use it > to access other network resources, particularly shared calendaring, > e-mail, files, etc. Also, Word and Excel are primariarly user interfaces > to the actual physical data in the computer. > > What's confusing is that many people have taken the word desktop used it > when they are talking about a consumer standalone system. One rule of thumb > is that if you can pull the network connection out of it and not notice, > it's probably a standalone. I think that I've made that very mistake, but with a twist. The server/client or server/work-station distinction were/are clear to me for the most part. However, for some reason, I interpreted a "desktop" machine as one running X-Windows and used as what you describe as a desktop above. I guess that it hadn't sunk in that your "desktop" machine could very well be running only console apps. The previous discussions on this thread are now fitting into place a bit better, ;) -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message