From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 30 00:05:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26201106568D for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outW.internet-mail-service.net (outw.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094C98FC24 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4012DA6E; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:05:59 -0800 (PST) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (h-67-100-89-137.snfccasy.static.covad.net [67.100.89.137]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6202D6016; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:05:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B130C6A.70406@elischer.org> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:06:02 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <200905191458.50764.jhb@freebsd.org> <200905201522.58501.jhb@freebsd.org> <3bbf2fe10911291429k54b4b7cfw9e40aefeca597307@mail.gmail.com> <66707B0F-D0AB-49DB-802F-13146F488E1A@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <66707B0F-D0AB-49DB-802F-13146F488E1A@samsco.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Attilio Rao , arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sglist(9) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:05:59 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > I think this is fundamentally wrong. You're proposing exchanging a > cheap operation of splitting VA's with an expensive operation of > allocating, splitting, copying, and refcounting sglists. Splitting is > an excessively common operation, and your proposal will impact > performance as storage becomes exponentially faster. > From the perspective of a flashdrive driver the more efficient the better. The current generation of devices are doing 800MB/sec (6.4Gb/sec) of scattter-gather random IO and really that will only go up. We are doing over 130,000 independent transactions per second and we can put multiple drives in a single machine. These numbers will only increase with future developments.