From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 17 11:48:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B001065676 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5C68FC16 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so4231450vws.13 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.122.24 with SMTP id j24mr1296955vcr.14.1279367321342; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l36sm7432727vbi.0.2010.07.17.04.48.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26160E5484D for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:48:38 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100717074838.6366e29d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100717171252.V86988@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100716112652.C24C9106577E@hub.freebsd.org> <20100717171252.V86988@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: GUI for ACL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:48:43 -0000 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:04:56 +1000 (EST) Ian Smith articulated: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 319, Issue 9, Message: 24 > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:26:18 -0400 Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:17:25 +0530 > > Ashish SHUKLA articulated: > > > > > I've not used KDE since they released KDE 4, but IIRC, KDE 3.5.x used to have > > > ACL support integrated in it[1] by default. Are you sure there isn't any such > > > setting you probably missing during compilation in KDE 4.x ? > > > > > > References: > > > [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/wahjava/507889368/#/ > > > > No really. You cannot add users or change individual user's permissions > > via KDE's default file browser. Obviously, I can accomplish most of > > what I want to do from the command line, abet more slowly and error > > prone. > > Does that represent a regression in KDE4 from KDE3.5.x? > > > Having read up on a few Googled items, it appears that FreeBSD has not > > matured sufficiently yet to allow full integration of ACLs. Supposedly, > > 9.x will offer better integration. > > Integration with what? KDE? > > Perhaps I googled a little harder Jerry, but thanks to Robert Watson's > TrustedBSD framework, FreeBSD has supported POSIX 1.e ACLs since 5.1 and > NFSv4 ACLs in 8-STABLE for quite a while now; they'll be in 8.1-RELEASE > for both UFS and ZFS filesystems. > > Maybe it's the predominantly Linux-centric KDE that has not yet matured > sufficiently to include support for FreeBSD ACLs? As Carmel memtioned, > the (as usual) excellent article by Dru Lavigne on using FreeBSD ACLs at > http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/09/22/FreeBSD_Basics.html demonstrated > using Gnome's Nautilus enhanced by the port sysutils/eiciel - in 2005. > > Among the many other useful results from googling 'FreeBSD ACLs': > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list > http://wiki.freebsd.org/NFSv4_ACLs > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Releng/8.1TODO/ Per wiki: "support so called POSIX.1e ACLs, based on an early POSIX draft that was abandoned". My original statement is still valid, FreeBSD has still not released a stable version of its OS that fully supports the latest acl standards. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. H. L. Mencken