From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 20 07:58:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1354BA1A83F for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF20CF10 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2164F860; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t9K7wGSk096052; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:58:17 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Yonas Yanfa cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Depreciate and remove gbde In-reply-to: <5625D422.4040402@fizk.net> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <56237623.5010702@fizk.net> <20151019234406.GA88752@cons.org> <95431.1445318836@critter.freebsd.dk> <5625D422.4040402@fizk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <96050.1445327896.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:58:16 +0000 Message-ID: <96051.1445327896@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:58:19 -0000 -------- In message <5625D422.4040402@fizk.net>, Yonas Yanfa writes: >> Think human rights activists for instance. > >Couldn't they use a fake email address and Tor to communicate >anonymously? I'd be surprised if they aren't already. If you think being a human rights activist is that simple, you really have *no* idea... For a lot of them, using Tor would instantly blow their cover. We're not talking about people who wear Amnesty International T-shirts or who call themselves "human rights activists" when the pass through immigration. We're talking about people who for all practical purposes have a job as hard or harder than "real" spies. They do not have the the support and resources of their own government, they do not have a spare diplomatic passport and a new identity waiting for them at the embassy, and they certainly cannot afford those sunglasses. Getting it wrong on crypto or comms-footprint will at the very least cost them a year in some Elbonian mud-jail, worst case they die in a "traffic accident" or "commit suicide" in a turkish air-port toilet. >but we should improve the Handbook so gdbe vs. geli >strengths and weaknesses are better explained. By all means go for it! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.