From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Thu Feb 28 14:13:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8AA1508D91 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2596C958 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 069171508D90; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69961508D8F for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it1-f176.google.com (mail-it1-f176.google.com [209.85.166.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 734846C954; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it1-f176.google.com with SMTP id v83so15812532itf.1; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:13:12 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/AMq6UzTg5oykmlEdR0M7xScaJY9IiX/aHTqso1zS9E=; b=X/EQ7NtpKk7UJmop+OgvnI7aJibGOEhwnGWsHIYVWDTHXeknK0k5cBa9Qye4DYoJp+ 2cEOVNAt/jqflRSY5B3cUZoKikEOHYBRQVXnU2cAIUgpe0aI5rymVDo/LUFNIO+qkqAC NdhMrXC1RKvrMUk7CCkPK0hcsbVvJs8XKMyBLcEznoE/dJZ8EeAOUU1cnoEilXfuEMCJ 1MgqxUAWswPNyhbmEt+xn/L+PdPx9HRaKzMbCVj0EUjlblJNtRNdzYDbR5S8czQvdNx/ VAtA9CxRQkqW+n5cLxx1B/XNOKRrqXRxAUe/cOtPL5klUe98LEG5CMJQ+Yyfov4I5f0u +5kQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAua6Alg9bZJxl+izGYjlllj+dJ6RBAe1Pdn4H5G+1oho7G0NkB79 4o6TDoWU6/50RlUxAa+M2T4K+yLYVYwEVTyNL0LTgw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwgZM/1/6c1iTLSekpZQ/R+8xrLucvaqIGQeKXmGIV+HQ0nIXs+krk+9EcELWZhm+VyelfF/zwO4N/zvSh63jg= X-Received: by 2002:a24:6f94:: with SMTP id x142mr2869192itb.33.1551363190673; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:13:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201902281326.x1SDQ9ds056521@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201902281326.x1SDQ9ds056521@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Ed Maste Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:12:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE i386 can not build a kernel? To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Konstantin Belousov , stable@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 734846C954 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.90 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.905,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:13:14 -0000 On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 08:26, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > Are you really rally expecting a user to rebuild the world that > he just installed that should be exactly the same world he gets > build (reproduceable builds and all??). I'm expecting that a user will either follow the directions in the handbook (or use the LD=ld.lld override). A user that rebuilds the world they just installed will indeed get the same world. > But in your other mail you said the proper toolchain is included, > so this is not really true? > Yes I remeber the issue but we shipped a release with the issue in it? > An issue that was hit 7 months before the release? > Really? Yes, unfortunately re and portmgr asked me not to change this for the release. > Isn't this just a mater of fixing the toplevel make at > /usr/src for target buildkernel to include the LD=ld.lld or > fixing the kernel Makefile likewise? Possibly, but we don't want to break things if the user provides their own setting for LD=. I had a brief look at it when this issue existed on amd64 but there was no trivial fix.