From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 3 02:29:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D956716A4CE for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 02:29:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5900943D41 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 02:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dlavigne6@sympatico.ca) Received: from [192.168.2.87] ([64.230.30.218]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20040703022949.TOZT26030.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.2.87]> for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:29:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:31:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru X-X-Sender: dlavigne6@dru.domain.org To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040702223027.W564@dru.domain.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: training (was Resourceful BSD/Linux Network Administrator) (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:29:51 -0000 As suggested, this thread is being moved to chat. All comments/suggestions/rants regarding a BSD training curriculum most appreciated. Please cc me in any replies... Dru ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:16:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Subject: training (was Resourceful BSD/Linux Network Administrator) On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Bill Vermillion wrote: > I've been an outside consultant where a company hired a new grad > and sent them off to a school to learn what they needed. None of > them seemed to understand the system - just how to do certain > things. I think it's a symptom of the modern education systems > where people are taught to pass tests and are not educated in > the field of their choice. And modern education systems are getting worse, not better. Since I entered the training scene in 1997, I've seen 3 year curriculums get cut down to 4 months. Government programs, scholarships, and bursary programs slashed down to pittances. Apparantly, IT isn't as hot as it used to be. Worse, many who are hiring prefer someone with only 4 months of training and a superficial understanding of what they're being paid to do. That way they'll follow their scripts unquestioningly and not complain at being paid $10 an hour. I'd love to see a forum established to discuss how to bring quality BSD training to the masses. To create a curriculum that is practical, thought provoking, and available. However, freebsd-jobs isn't the place to hash it out. Anyone care to suggest a better place to continue on this thread? Dru _______________________________________________ freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jobs To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jobs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"