From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 16 19:41:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from maila.ptd.net (mail1a.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E85D37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 18271 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 02:40:09 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Apr 2001 02:40:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8701 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 02:41:48 -0000 Received: from du152.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([204.186.33.152]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Apr 2001 02:41:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADBACF9.E7E3419@mail.ptd.net> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:39:53 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stallman now claims authorship of Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joseph Mallett wrote: > > It's actually nothing new. I remember back in probably... 1995 he really > started bitching hard about how it should be GNU/Linux and then he started > taking lots of credit. > > Of course, the original source of the GNU stuff is never brought up... So > that means RMS _had_ to have done them all from scratch... Right. > > I was having a discussion with someone about the attitudes of the Linux > community, and the GNU community, and the constant raving of how all > computer innovations were open source, etc. etc. Has anyone else found any > truly unique innovations to come from _the GNU project_? The closest I can > find is translators in HURD, but I _think_ that had been done (to some > extent) outside of GNU before. It seems to me most of the 'open source > innovation' came from BSD, etc. not from GNU. If that's the case, then > they're implying that GNU has been the source of most computer innovation > (after all, it's usually said in defence of FSF/GNU/Linux), which is about > as accurate as calling RMS what he called himself... On http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html Stallman say, "The BSD developers were inspired to make their work free software by the example of the GNU Project ... ." But on http://www.gnu.org/ he also says, "The GNU Project was launched in 1984 ... ." Since the first Berkeley tape was sent out in 1978, it seems Mr. Stallman has also invented time travel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message