From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 20:40:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E8F16A4D3; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48FB43F75; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB14eHvX042470; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hB14eH22042469; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:17 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20031201044017.GA42037@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20031201032205.GA41354@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/scripts print-cdrom-packages.sh X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:40:24 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 10:26:50PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:48:44PM -0800, Scott Long wrote: > > > scottl 2003/11/29 15:48:44 PST > > > > > > FreeBSD src repository > > > > > > Modified files: > > > release/scripts print-cdrom-packages.sh > > > Log: > > > vim-lite can hardly be considered 'lite'. Remove it. > > > > Why isn't it "lite"? > > -rw-r--r-- 1 portmgr archive 2M Nov 18 01:09 vim-lite-6.2.139.tbz > > Lets look at the Emacs editors you left behind: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 portmgr archive 11M Nov 21 17:21 emacs-21.3.tbz > > > > I predict you will become very unpopular for this commit. > > Please remove Emacs instead. > > Maybe compared to vim, and both vim and vim-lite were previously on CD1? > > 2662422 vim-6.2.139.tbz > 2195668 vim-lite-6.2.139.tbz We really need to decide if disc1 is for servers or desktops. We've been able to kind-of do both for a while now. But I think we're at the point of having to make that hard decision. Server guys really want vim-lite as it doesn't require X11. Desktop guys really want vim so they get the GUI. Seriously we're only talking 2MB here; how in the world much as KDE and GNOME bloatware pigged out since 5.1-RELEASE? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) P.S. We could also easily trim 1MB from tools/. Many of these things are MS-DOS utils from the 1990's.