From nobody Wed May 3 07:53:09 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QB8MB0lltz493g9 for ; Wed, 3 May 2023 07:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QB8MB054mz4Ysq; Wed, 3 May 2023 07:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1683100390; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=uHDZ8nw5HGfEgBennfOeuIkH2inAGW8w++6E2sIvpBE=; b=CszKWr3Ebdodny+0mekhDdRdLCDiNJbQK7iUocF+zZXrPZL1nz5EpPWyOR3iUGy8F0HCJz b5NDTsOt91XaK9pelcvZ53CtNsZmGHHlFFrylb9mDDW7yASjDqywip9iluuTzigU1ihYRA FKCwvUeKccuIMutRs8KYYXu/0Iuv3nhskiC4rqQi+iM209zI3v+hJkTQ6TW9mI75U2k+Vs FAafn/FEESl9xghkVqo/p1kPZGiGAzsgtLarxm8sAl+Usu2VXXqhvOSkwpF9qtgvUrUcEl 1UDC6xSVwqZDqRsU86hmwCY+k7fvhl7cjCD3C9D0dTQSZ+nJ8RQSK4be9Xnfjg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1683100390; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=uHDZ8nw5HGfEgBennfOeuIkH2inAGW8w++6E2sIvpBE=; b=yS8VHUdsefjSH0DW9DprnCcfMN8QklBWXClX448e6c/6FnTCwkYCBRHqUXBbwNDHRasMn1 GtaCpPylpQ85npRPbe/qVeJZNoVxKFmtwdGAWrSHu+lUFtOawu8dTAOvP8iC4cqQS1T4V0 6rXPX8kQPvW9sPIrQuVBWvRmdnEHMb++/mBcpa3/shxc4VCmn7dN817Ck664P5eC0qM1qN VtEQdKUDAieVn1bzxQoeZhToZLBsvB4yNBPTBaRo0huzXcY1RbZXlxF7T7lFoGcI4e3mtM hcDs1eKVcA4Z4WUJjN/ZfnI7f8PJJj1aiUk4RK61q4mM0hU0zJLWNG1k6fbe5A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1683100390; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OTYAPdJtRQ4hVBXYjXe5Dlf17e9iZ66URF2U1YAAmfwcDNpT2v3EpW2AbON9csKhSuaIOJ VZZugQU2tY4PQ23Dh0gGV5ZJRFKqD0qTV5bF4k5bVhWxOHoyNZQtBp7yE/2/Y8VRVlxn1u Zs1zXPwnrIftoFMFmMeN+2lFQOAvHTy0IgqU6Blk1m/6tn0UDBMZwUAbh60YqZcI2vQtDf pMAc8j73zRz7zNZ1yep6tOZoHKeIBvx3KFALOavwM7bpbnpbFlZcrS3RTyxhHhXhyMQRqs sQHEyIYTolwQheHnUJBtcRM2jJp+ec9mi3omSs0aMIxxzHefVUTgQJQ7uZER+g== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id DDCAA1264E; Wed, 3 May 2023 07:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 07:53:09 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Glen Barber Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delay in 14.0-RELEASE cycle and blocking items Message-ID: References: <20230501181449.GJ1219@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230501181449.GJ1219@FreeBSD.org> X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 06:14:49PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > ... > There is no feasible way we are going to make the branch point of > stable/14 in time, with that scheduled for May 12, 2023 with the above > points. That said, this is not an all-inclusive list, but the more > major items on our radar at the moment. Does this delay mean we might get Clang 16 in the base? Current 15.0.7 hits assertion on one of my ports which had allegedly been fixed in 16. Also, AFAIU it comes with better support for modern C++, e.g. ranges. ./danfe