From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 9 7:25: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from owlstation.cslab.vt.edu (owlstation.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2F137B422 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu) Received: from snowcow.cslab.vt.edu (snowcow.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.27]) by owlstation.cslab.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f49EP0b91946 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:25:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu) Received: from localhost (wkurdzio@localhost) by snowcow.cslab.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f49EMeJ13280 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:22:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Wes Kurdziolek To: Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp3.freebsd.org will volunteer to be archive.freebsd.org. We've got plenty of disk space, and I have lately routinely needed files from pre-3.x releases. -- Wes Kurdziolek Virginia Tech Computer Science Lab UNIX System Administrator E-mail: wkurdzio@cslab.vt.edu Voice: +1 (540) 231-3457 Office: 116A McBryde Hall http://www.cslab.vt.edu/ On Wed, 9 May 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2001, jason andrade wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 May 2001, Cejka Rudolf wrote: > > > > [...] > > > them. I would like to see much lower number of primary mirror sites, but > > > with much higher quality and credibility. What about splitting up a list > > > of mirror sites into primary (proven, credible) and secondary > > > (incomplete, slower) categories? > > > > > > Imagine 4.4-RELEASE and all 100+ (?) mirror sites syncing > > > and waiting for 4.4-release.iso over rsync :-) > > > > > > from observing redhat releases, there are about 25 "primary" sites - i.e > > ones where admins will work to ensure a pre-release is completely available > > before an announcement. the other 100 or so sites tend to catch up at a > > rate of anything from a few days, to a few weeks, depending on the size > > of their mirror. > > > > but of those 25, i doubt there are more than half a dozen who can offer > > a complete (80G+?) redhat mirror. > > > > i'd expect similar numbers with freebsd mirroring. sometimes the concept > > of a "primary" might be more important as having an up to the date release > > available than a complete freebsd archive per se. > > So why not formalize that relationship with an archive.freebsd.org which > stores all the older stuff and ftp.freebsd.org that has the latest and > greatest: > > Latest -RELEASE with packages > Latest -SNAP (current and stable) > Latest packages > > To get this work seamlessly, you need to put code into fetch/sysinstall to > automagically try archive.freebsd.org when it can't find what it needs on > ftp.freebsd.org. The advantage to this is a ftp.freebsd.org server will > have high bandwidth requirements but lower disk requirements. An archive > server will have large disk requirements but lower bandwidth requirements. > This gives mirror operators the opportunity to sit down, assess what they > can provide (ie, I can provide lots of disk, but not much bandwidth) and > fill one of the above 2 roles. > > -gordon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message