From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 19 13:56:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9C516A4CE for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D1F43D39 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:56:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C366B2BD7F for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:56:33 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2B6F51211; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:26:28 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:26:28 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ash Gokhale Message-ID: <20040319215628.GL21807@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1079648282.405a201a64217@savaka.com> <004c01c40d59$38e8d550$1e0a0a0a@nt.shinawatra.ac.th> <20040319030343.GA21807@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040318222230.F54150@floyd.gnulife.org> <1079675230.86745.91.camel@compass> <853AE3A7-79BE-11D8-9740-00039383C51E@noaa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kK1uqZGE6pgsGNyR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <853AE3A7-79BE-11D8-9740-00039383C51E@noaa.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Tom McLaughlin cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: Eric@savaka.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD-newbies is a community. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:56:36 -0000 --kK1uqZGE6pgsGNyR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 11:00:19 -0500, Ash Gokhale wrote: > Asbestos underwear aside, FreeBSD is a community that is expanding > at all the tiers, from n00b ,operator,admin, developer and finally to "I > write interrupt level microcode for God's machine herself, how dare you > ask that question on this list, this is clearly a ports problem, > uggh!". The best part of the list it is that it belongs to the people > who use it moderately and politely. > > Appropriating the newbie list for a wider range of questions gives > people a chance to play with ideas they would not ordinarily be exposed > to. People who come to FreeBSD from another unix should appreciate this > variety. Real brand new unix/BSD mephits will appreciate good humor and > courtesy. Well, this may be your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but it goes against the charter. > I would hate to bug -hackers, or -questions with an OpenSSL > upgrade question. But that's exactly what -questions is for. -newbies is not. > That said, our successful community will not scold people who > don't know where to get the information they seek. We will instead > try to help, and buy suggesting different approaches, give everyone > learns something different. The best way to help is to stick to the charter. A number of people have explained why it's there. Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --kK1uqZGE6pgsGNyR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAW2yMIubykFB6QiMRAvayAJ49MbvRFXQIhrXG4kPIKe5BJJ/XwQCdGSR/ 1F+SxPwg0qLpXhzUTImXwvA= =zChm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kK1uqZGE6pgsGNyR--