From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 14 12:32:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08F3C1D4 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pacha.mail.dyslexicfish.net (space.mail.dyslexicfish.net [91.109.5.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9844F125E for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from catnip.dyslexicfish.net (space.mail.dyslexicfish.net [91.109.5.35]) by pacha.mail.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s3ECWF2B081179; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:32:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@catnip.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by catnip.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id s3ECWFQ1081178; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:32:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <201404141232.s3ECWFQ1081178@catnip.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:32:15 +0100 To: matt@chronos.org.uk, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole? References: <534B11F0.9040400@paladin.bulgarpress.com> <201404141207.s3EC7IvT085450@chronos.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <201404141207.s3EC7IvT085450@chronos.org.uk> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (pacha.mail.dyslexicfish.net [91.109.5.35]); Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:32:16 +0100 (BST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:32:34 -0000 Matt Dawson wrote: > My first thought when I saw this was "ego over ethics," which says more > about Theo than FreeBSD. Totally. I know Theo has a reputation for being 'difficult', but in my opinion, this outburst really calls into question his perceived motivations regarding secure software. As to the specific question, I don't think his ego would allow a bug in openssh to persist, so even if it does, I'd suspect it's not too serious (or it's non-trivial to exploit), and it's related to FreeBSD produced 'glue'. This is total guesswork on my part, but I'd therefore assume he was talkining about openssh in base, rarther than openssh-portable in ports.