From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 23 13:32:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AFE1065696 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C268FC57 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2275 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2009 13:32:24 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Sep 2009 13:32:24 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 32342508B0; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:32:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Kostik Belousov References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090922200449.GL19207@rugsucker.local> <44vdja1x83.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20090923102004.GB47688@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:32:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20090923102004.GB47688@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> (Kostik Belousov's message of "Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:20:04 +0300") Message-ID: <448wg5ais8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:32:25 -0000 Kostik Belousov writes: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 05:33:00PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> The point of DMA is that it does the absolute minimum needed to get a >> workable system. That *minimum* is really just delivering locally >> generated mail somewhere else, primarily to make sure root's cron >> e-mails go somewhere. To actually receive mail, another MTA would >> always be needed. > Does this mean that standalone machine will not work out of the box > until external email receiver is set up and configured ? In other > words, out of the box, local mail is lost ? No, my understanding of the out-of-the-box behaviour is that locally generated, locally destined mail is delivered locally. Remotely destined mail won't work very well unless a smarthost is defined.