From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 3 11:36:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E35C1F47; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0.glenbarber.us (mail0.glenbarber.us [208.86.227.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.glenbarber.us", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4833B0; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (70.15.88.86.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net [70.15.88.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by mail0.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49CC8BD4C; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:36:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 mail0.glenbarber.us 49CC8BD4C Authentication-Results: mail0.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 07:36:05 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Torbjorn Granlund Subject: Re: Downplaying a serious issue Message-ID: <20140403113605.GZ14379@glenbarber.us> References: <861txffcgh.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <20140403035800.GR14379@glenbarber.us> <86k3b697nt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86k3b697nt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:36:09 -0000 --lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > Glen Barber writes: >=20 > It is not a doc problem. > =20 > The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and unless > anyone has made any breakthroughs that I am unaware of, the cause is > still unknown. > =20 > It happens on: >=20 > AMD piledriver running Linux+KVM > AMD piledriver running Linux+Xen > Intel Nehalem running NetBSD+Xen > Intel Sandybridge running NetBSD+Xen > Intel Haswell running NetBSD+Xen > AMD K10 Barcelona running NetBSD+Xen > AMD Bulldozer running NetBSD+Xen >=20 We need more specifics. > I've seen the laughable claim that this is a "bug in Virtualbox", and now > the major downplay at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/errata.html, > where this is a minor hardware specific problem. >=20 > I have not found one piece of PC hardware where it does not happen under > virtualisation. Please let me know some configuration where FreeBSD/i386 > works under a type 1 virtualiser? Perhaps Bhyve is FreeBSD-compatible? >=20 Does not happen on my VirtualBox host. Glen --lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTPUelAAoJELls3eqvi17QNdcP/iMxmJhfr1mKM7eU7sa3sLTe 1w4oXnmZSUwPbT9rzH13QnQyKhBVowlZ3DfrNslyB5sgyY+BqEkkL7VlooXauHj8 uQw6tjvSp814b6J1BWW3fdkNw6zTNMNQ2vnog/oDk3bAdh9oOoS41zQVLOdLcF2q OCRQ8Afxaadgyc+EZuH9mHahDn0RgN5sgMAFuN+gCGQBKcDepFMAW/JwEZGwVrnt HX5/GDpB0mGsXqOKS8fdaXnxSrl91BC4/oavmT3t09aAbAWyWMb7t8VHKpp1pi4x mHTWXbTrL1+vDU64I7NJz1SVU4Qbknp/4uGjd6HCEW5iM8fiUbyrTE3nu2WREFx2 8+q/w/LZgoZCmsKSP6pWwBl7F6VxMB0XPcKTZ+4qM0s///VJND8nsuXT4S2gPYpP MvD/lQDA2+CKhTR9EwZn1W+MRHL/duSvMzoqnwNUl/abqlXbTCsUGY+32v18Ad8Z SjQOh96DUDiBnaENLmi/G2iNUrEPi8L8Y/GAWnvOsEjYPWnt67NQ4PPIb9YYyn22 jX2/XTET3u2mB2Y/JifqWl2XYNTZlLn7QF2WPKzIt1JhGT59MTmSwJzlGscBUc4B MsWgpbT8oDEnccc5dL4OJH8JMy8aNhWO2RV6m3q4bHmNdthl80wP4iQCvi0Ml37D udLJoSigXfFlWzCQN0vR =MO8b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84--