From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 2 22:28:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D276937B400; Thu, 2 May 2002 22:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g435S5m10060; Thu, 2 May 2002 22:28:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 22:28:05 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Michael Sierchio Cc: Brooks Davis , Dave Hayes , Terry Lambert , Drew Tomlinson , bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP Message-ID: <20020502222800.A6566@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200205030344.g433i7b88531@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <20020502212358.A28915@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <3CD21A1C.1040304@tenebras.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3CD21A1C.1040304@tenebras.com>; from kudzu@tenebras.com on Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:03:24PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:03:24PM -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: >=20 > >>I'm sure you folks hashed this all over before, but really...calling a > >>branch "-stable" when it really isn't is not good semantic practice > >>IMNSHO. > >=20 > >=20 > > DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER STARTING THIS THREAD!!! It's been hashed over more > > times then are worth counting on various mailing lists which are fully > > archived. If you really care go read the flamewars there, don't start > > them on the list. The signal to noise ratio is bad enough without this > > junk. >=20 > That's right, let's not make any mention of the pink hippo in the living > room. The nomenclature is fup duck. It should be changed. Just > because there's a historical explanation for abusing the language > doesn't mean it should be perpetuated. Sorry, shouldn't have flamed like that. :( However, just ranting about this problem[0] won't accomplish anything other then wasting a lot of time and energy, IMO. There's plenty of historic evidence to support this view in the archives. If you want change you'll have to try another one. If someone has a solid proposal that addresses the various problems, they should talk to re@freebsd.org who actually makes this sort of decision and try to get some agreement. If they do agree, great. If not, flamewars -stable won't change that. -- Brooks [0] I'll agree it is one, but I don't think it's worth the pain and confusion solving it would require. Obviously others disagree. --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE80h/eXY6L6fI4GtQRAoEsAJ94bopMzNxGoV5e/gIbjOG/bujXgwCgi2AZ JkPOqsek90Z0+N696IsoAaQ= =8paS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message