From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 16:22:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38BE16A4CE; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 16:22:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006BA43D3F; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 16:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (buffy.york.ac.uk [144.32.226.160]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i87GFHoO005032; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:15:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i87GFG5G094793; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:15:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i87GFFP3094792; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:15:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: buffy.york.ac.uk: ga9 set sender to gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk using -f From: Gavin Atkinson To: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" In-Reply-To: <1094571416.67273.8.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.com> References: <20040907112121.GA94401@cell.sick.ru> <20040907151957.GE95626@cell.sick.ru> <1094571416.67273.8.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1094573715.93406.62.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:15:15 +0100 X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk cc: Gleb Smirnoff cc: Matthias Andree cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BETA3 showstoppers (read: critical bugs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:22:54 -0000 On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 16:36, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 11:19, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 05:14:47PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > M> Hum, is the duplex setting manual? I've only used the 3C900 Combo for > > M> 10base2/BNC (Coax) so far. My DSL modem is hooked up to a "classic" > > M> (=old) 3C905 via crossover CAT5. > > > > The card I've acquired 15 minutes ago :) is 3C905-TX. It is connected > > with help of crossover CAT5 to my notebook. I run PPPoE server on > > notebook and can connect from desktop to this using ng_pppoe on > > CURRENT. > > We have occasionally seen what I am told by our network folks are odd > autonegotiation issues with 3C905-TX cards connected to Cisco switches, > for what it's worth. I'm not convinced it's solely a hardware issue, > though, as it seems to be a lot more common with "recent" 2.4-series > SuSE Linux kernels than with older ones. So far I've not had a chance > to try it with FreeBSD (and I'm unlikely to do so any time soon; around > here a stable AFS client is an absolute necessity...). There are known problems with the later 3com 3C905C cards which often fail to autonegotiate correctly. As far as I know, the earlier cards don't suffer from this, but I guess it's possible. It may be worth comparing manufacture location of the cards - apparently there are a few differences between cards originating from Ireland and those originating from Singapore. See for example (although it refers to Linux) http://www.scyld.com/pipermail/vortex/2002-July/001880.html Gavin