From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 6 18:57:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B26E106566B for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FDE8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.12.4]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id A880D26 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:56:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4CD5A50D.3090602@stillbilde.net> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:57:17 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1530E039A2FE558020C95E60" Subject: Re: ZFS License and Future X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:57:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1530E039A2FE558020C95E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06.11.2010 19:52, krad wrote: > On 5 November 2010 19:11, Alejandro Imass wrote: >=20 >> Hey folks, >> >> A while back I started the thread "Troubles on SATA drives ZFS". I >> decided to bring the zpool down check each disk and re-construct the >> pool. Nevertheless, I was revising one of the ZFS error message links >> and Oracle made me create a developer id to access the info. This >> really pissed me off even more than teh Android suit, so it got me >> thinking... >> >> Maybe I should go back to UFS, CCD, GEOM, etc. instead of continuing >> to support f***ing Oracle. ZFS was honestly very easy and seemed very >> reliable and fast, but I would like the opinion and position of people= >> here on ZFS before I continue using it. >> >> Many thanks, >> Alejandro Imass >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >=20 > the main problem is geom and ufs isnt a like for like replacement yet. = Good > as though geom is it just not as easy as zfs from an adminsistration po= int > of view in my opinion. It may potentinally get a block checksum class b= ut it > will be a long time before its like for like. >=20 > I've had a play around with btrfs, which is supposed to be an opensourc= e > equivelent to zfs. It is far from ready yet though. It may mature into = a > good product in the future, but its a long way off and far from polishe= d > (dam horrible from what ive seen so far). Most of its development was b= acked > by oracle though from what i have read, so who knows where that will go= now. > If oracle want to continue to push linux and it to have a decent fs, it= may > well just be easier for them to drop the licensing issues with cddl whi= ch > was preventing zfs from making it into linux. Who knows but for anythin= g in > the near to medium future there is nothing to rival zfs on the opensour= ce > market. >=20 > Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra > features of zfs. Personally I cant see how anyone with any important da= ta > can do without checksuming. The question I keep asking myself, is what could FreeBSD + DragonFlyBSD do with DragonFly's "Hammer". Is there any work in progress porting Hammer to FreeBSD, or is that unlikely for ... personal history reasons? //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. 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