From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 15 18:56:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15426 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15407 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24209; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981015215629.C16439@netmonger.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:56:29 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current NFS problem References: <19981015115155.O586@freebie.lemis.com> <6710.908424028@dstc.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <6710.908424028@dstc.edu.au>; from George Michaelson on Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:00:28PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:00:28PM +1000, George Michaelson wrote: > > I use NFS. I'd really like to see it fixed. > > Gee. I see history about to repeat itself. Exit stateless filesystems left > and enter 'the Newcastle connection' stage right. Then we can argue about > who invented the acronym DFS and why RFS failed. [and why NFS is impossible] I don't think the issue here is really whether fixing all of NFS is an intractable problem. The fact is that you can take certain other unixes and use their NFS implementations happily, whereas adding FreeBSD to the mix results in unhappiness. Whether this is because of actual bugs in the FreeBSD code, or whether it is fairy dust and workarounds by the other guys, it implies that it should be possible to make FreeBSD at least as reliable as, say, Solaris in the area of NFS(v3). I personally only use NFS occasionally, and almost exclusively FreeBSD-FreeBSD, and then almost always just to do a "make reinstall" somewhere, so I can't say I was even aware that we had NFS problems. But if there are people who are working on it, I don't think they should be encouraged to drop it because there are better network filesystem solutions... NFS is still the thing you're most likely to find supported elsewhere, and it can be the very lack of legacy compatability that hinders a system's widespread adoption. That said, I happen to have Coda on my workstation and laptop, and I certainly hope to reap the benefits of its continued development. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations S NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net SSS http://www.netmonger.net \_/ It's possible, you can never know, that the universe exists only for me. - BILL GATES To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message