From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 30 12:32:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3469B37B404 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4044343FFB for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5UJWEVI025476; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5UJWEmr025475; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306301932.h5UJWEmr025475@apollo.backplane.com> To: "David G. Lawrence" References: <200306300357.h5U3vwv6041101@nexus.dglawrence.com> <20030630042653.GK29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030630061417.GA35100@nexus.dglawrence.com> <20030630182900.GC35100@nexus.dglawrence.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please confirm (conf#3cf11a7145595546740c6064dbc27044) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:32:24 -0000 :>What would it do with my hotel reservation confirmation email? : : It stores all messages waiting for confirmation in a queue. It doesn't :throw anything away. If I'm expecting something like a hotel reservation :confirmation, then I can look in the queue for it. It is really a small :price to pay to avoid the ~400 spams that I get each day. : I never said this scheme was perfect. For me, spam has reached crisis :proportions - and I only get about 400/day. I know some people that get :over a thousand a day. It all depends on how long and how much you've been :doing email with a particular email address. Aside from changing email :addresses or shutting off email entirely, there are few alternative :solutions that are effective. I despise third party blacklists, especially :spews which I've been victimized by several times. : :-DG : :David G. Lawrence :Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com - (866) 399 8500 It's gotten to the same point for me too. My mail server rejects spams from DSL, cable modem, ppp dialups, sources without working reverse IPs, sources with screwy headers... it rejects over 400 email connections a day and I *STILL* get 15-20 spams a day in my inbox. The worst of lot inside the U.S. is MCI. MCI fails to take action against spammers who are their customers. It's amazing how a large corporation can be such a bad neighbor. Verizon comes next. Outside the U.S. it's all across the board. I hate to do it, but I am leaning towards a confirmation system as well. I see no other solution. -Matt