From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 18:12:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42270106564A for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rysto32@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33CE8FC18 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faak28 with SMTP id k28so3306033faa.13 for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BRjB+/xi54q1WDMP2rlYQt9/KCwdQwVkvJwvnhRhG+A=; b=q1q68lYLb24roWa2Rdo/GKSP107Kt0LyjNl1H9jD2GoGH5pUWlx+ztE+y8ROj8Muud KKwA+cIkxtsOpEOK7BBKves2fW6v31lmPLxOV9ehlCaM28w8biky0j3D3ub9imF8jeny gPgeuTw4yvQg/KaMapjEey3voOgTIJAcIVm08= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.88.66 with SMTP id be2mr10880353wib.54.1322849562783; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.101.102 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:12:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ryan Stone To: Lyndon Nerenberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Chris Rees Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:12:44 -0000 On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > No, these days 'obsolete' seems to mean 'it does not have a sexy > Flash-driven web GUI.' In this case, 'obsolete' means it's a difficult-to-use tool that requires recompiling your application, can't be used in production, doesn't work when shared libraries are in the picture, offers limited-to-no visibility into the underlying reasons why a particular code path is a hotspot and introduces large measurement errors