From nobody Thu Jun 13 23:42:46 2024 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4W0f9J2wvYz5MMtr for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4W0f9H4Xlbz4Mmd; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none ("invalid DKIM record") header.d=be-well.ilk.org header.s=selector header.b=ifPwvxq3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ilk.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org designates 23.30.133.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org Received: from lowell-Ubuntu.lan (lowell-Ubuntu.lan [172.30.250.95]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B69520A05; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:42:46 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=be-well.ilk.org; s=selector; t=1718322173; bh=S+G+lNNT8/YG43l3HQ0WVXnHoPXvAn8G9P/epYWCrZw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=ifPwvxq3DDmJ4bkXWoNTv2G3fmpyxfzR0QQ0rskVfpf7mY0zMsc2OFJEsFDs30F8Z QB+2TdLub82Wz8O/4ksT57+jx9avrFvaol0CWrTdEEwmI0sBrNF/ImbhpBkBrKSof+ XvLO5rhFmPaG7qYZEHO1ph+A/vM4F+2ZDgzeO6m0= Received: by lowell-Ubuntu.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3A9611080470; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:42:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Cc: Michael Gmelin , Ronald Klop , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 14.1-R rc.conf/ifconfig netmask issue was really hard to figure out In-Reply-To: <202406121128.45CBScQ1010455@critter.freebsd.dk> (Poul-Henning Kamp's message of "Wed, 12 Jun 2024 11:28:38 +0000") References: <202406120747.45C7lRGZ009491@critter.freebsd.dk> <413984193.6719.1718185609109@localhost> <202406121039.45CAdal6010274@critter.freebsd.dk> <20240612125217.68483cf9.grembo@freebsd.org> <202406121128.45CBScQ1010455@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:42:46 -0400 Message-ID: <44le38z9xl.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.69 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ilk.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[be-well.ilk.org:s=selector]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[be-well.ilk.org:~] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4W0f9H4Xlbz4Mmd "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: > Defaulting to a /8 netmask for 192.168.x.y does not make *any* sense ever. Well, not in the last 30 years or so, anyway.