From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 23 03:24:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F138B18183 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8941CAE; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C791624; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:24:33 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Lyndon Nerenberg Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why 100 packages are evil Message-ID: <20160423032433.GC1804@FreeBSD.org> References: <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> <5716FA70.4080604@freebsd.org> <57170E5D.1090701@freebsd.org> <5524F499-5042-407E-9180-43D15A53F3F0@FreeBSD.org> <7621BDAB-A409-456A-A3F1-A6CD9B371DBC@rdsor.ro> <20160420094806.GJ6614@zxy.spb.ru> <7c84f388-21dc-419f-70ce-c5369e294dab@freebsd.org> <20160423032138.GB1804@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160423032138.GB1804@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event X-PEKBAC-Definition: Problem Exists, Keyboard Between Admin/Computer User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:24:35 -0000 --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 03:21:38AM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:17:15PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > With freebsd-update, an announcement comes out that says 'update'!. So= we > > do. Move from 10.2-p11 to 10.2-p12. There is a very clear track recor= d of > > why and how this happened. > >=20 > > What will be the new update frequency with >100 base packages? >=20 > Same as it is now for releases. Packages will be available for SAs/ENs. >=20 > There is no intention to change this model. >=20 Furthermore, not every package will be updated with an SA/EN; just the one(s) affected. Which is why I find the complaining over 700+ packages to be quite nonsensical, since we're reducing the bandwidth required for a binary update. Glen --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXGurxAAoJEAMUWKVHj+KTaGcP/R3PdJVsui9kXLb479DMrum3 wwwyLxv6JFnCxTeeUr9WvxNSG3hUDfh4SMrkS9XeabjKJsMfASR9a1/nwDjdLeAJ jEnNl5lmz6QeEFhGUQfbeEgV1HOnTEypMV13XP/3BRXVZxhVLRwFLkhsCvoK7Q09 2cCkKvtrEYlqDHPBD2kr1yPeUdj02sCc6H6NmT6GVatL9Au03qIyI+Y0T1sK6+z8 VJb7bRCtGWx5rvz6wlQpKmAr7HaOB4u1burMqUXz31HI310WQV8JmKMHbfU/lc5i 2XZ0ZYJIQSdTHWmlJq9y16v+lP926WuMjeNAUVo30iEwnLwnMtm3ZLiHDBM8pXFS 0AygFpIcoLkDM5KZft49J2mZwgBPMaeuKsyqzA2Db6yCctEPRvuVPR93WneCyQTp +hYeNGBYq0+n+lT5GSRGQlKkUuqorrLYx/wgXge+2s6mpb7Z76mGG+wkMX8YrDR3 whuRPSDeOE5PO4E7IRhPH1pY4KgAFZXcDoXotJX4Z3wzBD9tDuuxN3sYepHznRqy xn/Wka16m6BQIuoE0B2l/VPfZ8/DJEfg8XX6V53GkrAiA47BcEoQY4D67as9XJ4z z3I7U+TY4NAHRleB2qW/y9eB7dPhFXeDm1jb5jr+xFCourP8wM7aKZ9GxayCbb/F +MeWR9E3x+HYCP+L6V4p =tgRO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI--