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Date:      Sun, 3 Jun 2007 17:01:46 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Uggg!
Message-ID:  <20070604000146.GB91077@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070601144306.GC79983@egr.msu.edu>
References:  <200706010521.l515LE4N074880@harmony.bsdimp.com> <20070601085750.ang0g5aqp0kg8c8k@webmail.leidinger.net> <20070601083345.GA48323@rot13.obsecurity.org> <10723ADA-FD53-45F8-BDFA-DBD98CBC212E@FreeBSD.org> <20070601144306.GC79983@egr.msu.edu>

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On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:43:06AM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:15:48AM -0700, Ade Lovett wrote:
> 
>   
>    On Jun 01, 2007, at 01:33 , Kris Kennaway wrote:
>   > Download the packages from the FTP site and either reinstall them or
>   > extract the +CONTENTS.  This will work best if you don't have local
>   > make.conf customizations, otherwise you will see variance.
>   
>    Actually, this does bring up a meta-issue that ports, pkgsrc, portage, all 
>    suffer from.
>   
>    What happens when the metadata gets blown away (by accident, hardware crash, 
>    flaming meteor from Mars, etc.)
>   
>    Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
>   
>    Yes.  It's an open-ended question.  I also have no obvious solution.  But I 
>    do see the need for such.


	One simple solution would be to bup the metadata via ssh
	to several severals (or at least one!) Also bzip the file
	and mail it every N hours >>somewhere Safe<<.

	my dime's worth:)

	gary



>   
>    -aDe
>   
> gjournal :)
> 
> My two cents:
> I've been using it on my laptop since soon after it was available in -current
> and I love it to pieces, it has been perfectly stable for me and I would be 
> using it on my production servers it it were available in -stable.  It seems
> like it would be an invaluable tool for developers or users who might expect
> crashes.  I admit I am only using it on /usr, and my laptop has /var on /,
> but my crashes come from hardware or battery and I almost never compile while
> on battery.  
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  Gary Kline  kline@thought.org   www.thought.org  Public Service Unix




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