From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 12:31:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9441065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EA78FC0A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id n24BY1dY055969; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B7756427; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.86]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA50756420; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.212.18]) by tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n24BXuW3064365; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:33:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281DBD025C; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Df63sD+q1iJN; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.48.255.208] (vanparys.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.208]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00132D0096; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AE672D.3080905@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> <20090303032422.9490d9eb.freebsd@edvax.de> <49AD21B1.6020208@bah.homeip.net> <20090304082155.GC15637@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20090304082155.GC15637@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:55:14 +0000 Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , FBSD UG , Polytropon , freebsd-questions , Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:31:15 -0000 Gary Kline a écrit : > If this were only true! ...But as I understand it, corporations like > the RIAA forbid me from making a backup of a CD or DVD that I *own*. > (E.g, a 6-CD set of Shostokovich). While this thread is off-list and is probably annoying many people here, I cannot refrain to point out that this kind of discussion is void unless it is studied in a given legal system. For example in France, a court may decide that a given clause in a EULA is void because it is unfairly restrictive, or because the customer was not properly informed, oe because it contradicts current usage, or whatever. Companies and particulars can write everything they want, this does not make a law. BTW I would like to point out that the question of validity of EULA is the same than the problem of validity of other software licences such as BSD or GPL: any of them will only be given a definitive answer in the front of a court. -- Cheers, Michaël