From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 15:28:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E552106566B for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A428E8FC12 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o62FSTJK063038; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:28:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4C2E059D.7050106@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:28:29 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100628 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20100701212112.GA28138@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4C2D9659.3060208@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100702131315.00007c89@unknown> <4C2DF1DA.2020503@qeng-ho.org> <20100702153814.00000aa2@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100702153814.00000aa2@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:28:35 -0000 On 07/02/10 15:38, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 > Arthur Chance wrote: > >> As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why >> 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as >> I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really >> enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the Handbook said >> as well and made it 3GB. This has turned out to be total overkill: >> >> arthur@fileserver> df -h /var >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/ad10s1d 2.9G 205M 2.5G 8% /var >> >> I'm sure my use of this machine is very simple and nowhere near as >> large as other people's but a leap of 4-16 times what it currently >> suggests in the Handbook seems a bit excessive, especially if people >> are installing onto older kit. OTOH, playing devil's advocate with >> myself, disks are huge these days so why not? >> > > I came up with that value based on discussion on IRC. I also thought > that portsnap might take up quite a bit more than it actually does. It > perhaps doesn't need updated from its current value. I suspect whoever you were talking to probably has more of a clue than I do. As a quick data point, I just ran "portsnap fetch update" while another process did a "df /var; sleep 1" loop and /var increased by about 30MB at its peak. That was a week after the last port update. I've no idea how much space a "portsnap fetch extract" would take and would rather not do one right now. Similarly I've no idea how much freebsd-update might take.