From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Aug 1 14:10:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B4437B405 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8408343E3B for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0503.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.248] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17aNCz-0006dl-00; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:10:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3D49A37B.BA3C2982@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:09:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony T Curtis Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSL vs. -lmd References: <200207311641.g6VGfRWj099655@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020801143059.GA536@nevermind.kiev.ua> <200208011151.55478.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <3D498FB4.6987B696@mindspring.com> <20020801195640.GQ26797@madman.nectar.cc> <3D4998F9.A736EA85@mindspring.com> <3D499CF3.4030601@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Antony T Curtis wrote: > This is why I would like a FreeBSD-Lite... Which is just the core > essentials of FreeBSD with everything else (gcc, bind, bash, perl, > openssl, openssh etc) coming from the ports. > > If I had the time, I would be so sorely tempted to roll my own *BSD > distribution based on that idea.... FreeBSD without the fluff. > > I'd have to roll some kind of binary distribution channel as there is no > system compiler ;) There have been a lot of us who have felt this way. The main thing that prevents us from doing this (admittedly, not very strongly prevents it; it's just a barrier to entry) is that we would not be allowed to call the resulting CDROM "FreeBSD". After the recent packaging discussion, which mostly boiled down to "Yep, it's a problem" and "Is `intractable' such a bad word, really?" and "This new library which we've been saying is `almost done' and `will solve the world hunger' since 1996 is almost done... AND solves world hunger! This time for sure!", it seems that the only way this can be fixed is to take the source code and rework the distribution system from scratch, from the ground up. Small wonder that Jordan went to work for Apple, which did basically exactly that... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message