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Date:      Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:55:21 +0200
From:      tuexen@freebsd.org
To:        Tom Jones <thj@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Too aggressive TCP ACKs
Message-ID:  <4E92E238-798B-4293-B0D2-81E3FCB92E34@freebsd.org>
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> On 26. Oct 2022, at 10:57, Tom Jones <thj@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:14:25PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Some thoughts about this topic.
>> 
>> Delaying ACKs means loss of performance when using Gigabit TCP 
>> connections in data centers. There it is important to ACK the data as 
>> quick as possible, to avoid running out of TCP window space. Thinking 
>> about TCP connections at 30 GBit/s and above!
>> 
>> I think the implementation should be exactly like it is.
>> 
>> There is a software LRO in FreeBSD to coalesce the ACKs before they hit 
>> the network stack, so there are no real problems there.
>> 
> 
> Changing the ACK ratio seems to be okay in most cases, a paper I wrote
> about this was published this week:
> 
> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sat.1466
> 
> It focuses on QUIC, but congestion control dynamics don't change with
> the protocol. You should be able to read there, but if not I'm happy to
> send anyone a pdf.
Is QUIC using an L=2 for ABC?

Best regards
Michael
> 
> - Tom




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