From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 20:07:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A3C14BF4DE for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [178.250.72.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA6779FC for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from [192.168.10.232] (90.69.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.69.90]) by relay.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 212532B1B4; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:07:31 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: The status of docker From: Mark Blackman X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16C101) In-Reply-To: <83736f61-abe9-d85f-a782-1b684808678c@gjunka.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:07:30 +0000 Cc: Stefan Bethke , freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <088AA858-AA5E-451A-90E9-016153C685C6@exonetric.com> References: <089e330d-2761-2440-3b7f-dd22e9088af5@gjunka.com> <929CF558-E8CC-4F7D-9C30-DDD63C17861D@lassitu.de> <94964BDE-7B14-424B-88A5-4D8F4A9AAC56@exonetric.com> <83736f61-abe9-d85f-a782-1b684808678c@gjunka.com> To: Grzegorz Junka X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 33FA6779FC X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.95)[0.948,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[exonetric.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[exonetric.com.in.heluna.com,exonetric.com.in.heluna.com,exonetric.com.in.heluna.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.991,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12290, ipnet:178.250.72.0/21, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ipnet: 178.250.72.0/21(1.08), asn: 12290(0.34), country: GB(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 20:07:39 -0000 > On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:39, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >=20 >> On 31/01/2019 07:50, Mark Blackman wrote: >> What problem are you trying to solve with docker? >=20 > There is a misunderstanding. I am not trying to solve any problem. The tea= m I am working with is using docker during development (by using a preconfig= ured container they avoid having to setup a complex backend system on develo= pment/CI machines). I was hoping to use FreeBSD during the development but i= t proved difficult. I now have a choice of either switching to Linux nativel= y (as bhyve didn't help) or to use MacBook Pro - both supporting docker out o= f the box. In this case, the problem you were trying to solves sounds something like =E2= =80=9Chow do I collaborate with my team who have already chosen docker while= sticking with my preferred OS=E2=80=9D =20 The problem your team was trying to solve was =E2=80=9Chow do I avoid buildi= ng a complex backend system on development/CI machines?=E2=80=9D I do believe there is some value in mimicking docker without actually being d= ocker and jetpack had a go at that. - Mark=20=