From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 14 17:21:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA19047 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19042 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:21:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA13191; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:21:09 -0800 (PST) To: Chuck Robey cc: Julian Elischer , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SUID-Directories patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:11:02 EST." Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:21:09 -0800 Message-ID: <13187.879556869@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm not sure that hackers is the right place for this (current would IMO > be more correct) but I have to say that I feel Julian has a strong point, > current _is_ the place for experimentation. It would be different if the I think that I already made my points about this about as well as I'm ever going to make them, so I'll say no more on the topic of what constitutes proper "experimentation" in -current. If you want my rebuttal to this, read my original message again. :) > code that he's bringing in was non-functional, but it isn't. The argument > that it was a small part of the whole, and non-functional even in part, > could only be made about the older DEVFS, not the SUID stuff, so that But I wasn't talking about the SUID stuff. > Is what he's asking to remain something that is very fragmentary? No. > Is it is going in without prior testing? No, not according to Julian's What Julian considers "prior testing" and what we in core consider prior testing are fundamentally at odds here. That's all I need to say. > I mean, what's the downside of this? Current isn't stable, that's one of > it's major attractions to me. Let's not become too conservative ... If anything, history will show that we haven't been nearly conservative enough. Jordan