From owner-freebsd-net Wed Sep 4 8: 7: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9444D37B400 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tp.databus.com (p70-227.acedsl.com [66.114.70.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E113143E72 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@databus.com) Received: from databus.com (localhost.databus.com [127.0.0.1]) by tp.databus.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84F6vEe017299; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:06:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney@databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by databus.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g84F6v5K017298; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:06:57 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: Richard Tobin Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is UPnP good for anything? Message-ID: <20020904150657.GA17187@tp.databus.com> References: <200209041358.OAA04709@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200209041358.OAA04709@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don't. Just get an ADSL modem, and use ipfw + natd (and PPPoE if necessary) to do anything the router would have done. If you really don't want to use FreeBSD for this task, the "cable/dsl" routers that talk to the modem via Ethernet and have 4 switched ports are so cheap that there is no reason to go for an integrated box. I just paid US$29.95 for a D-Link DI-604 for my daughter. But I'd much rather use one of my FreeBSD boxes - fewer security risks, more powerful firewall capability, better stability. On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 02:58:34PM +0100, Richard Tobin wrote: > I'm considering buying an ADSL router, ... -- Barney Wolff I'm available by contract or FT: http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message