From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 19 13:57:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBCE6579A3 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d2000998d112.2ac23e739c7de9765180c1a76bb960ac@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GT3ML6bbpz3DDW for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d2000998d112.2ac23e739c7de9765180c1a76bb960ac@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1626703071; x=1629295071; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=hhrkHdaCyHVmaIRDq8sHOabIuvE+T4a+ioZOEDUR6Pw=; b=Vu6haDBjJqkuu7Vxiny6f71VXLwuF9gGAkfoiL87CSiTfYFANVeoa+x7YX+5p7g95Yshzok7csvPsIUfGuXIe8kX1voQmqI43CXjXWWROM3ZidFwa3aIZELbmyav3hwvxIZHZlYKwrejr2Xn/whD4tjcHIp6k7kq7baLWbYa8b0= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkMjAwMDk5OGQxMTIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:57:43 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:57:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Tm9-0002Gj-Ui; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:57:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:57:40 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Nathaniel Nigro Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Message-Id: <20210719145740.42fc19c4d12a84a8b9e33a82@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GT3ML6bbpz3DDW X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=Vu6haDBj; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d2000998d112.2ac23e739c7de9765180c1a76bb960ac@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d2000998d112.2ac23e739c7de9765180c1a76bb960ac@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.36 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d2000998d112.2ac23e739c7de9765180c1a76bb960ac@email-od.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d2000998d112.2ac23e739c7de9765180c1a76bb960ac@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.34)[0.338]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:57:51 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:18:33 -0400 Nathaniel Nigro wrote: > I understand now, because I wasn’t doing the kernel updates (recompileing > it afterwards) after the binary updates it was saying the user land was > at patch 7 but could be at 9 Unless I did the kernel updates?-- Not quite - there are two distinct versions the kernel version and the userland version. Every binary patch will update the userland version but only binary patches that change the kernel will update the kernel version. Building from source and installing always updates both versions. Either way you wind up with the same kernel and userland, but in the source upgrade the kernel picks up the version bump whether or not it is otherwise changed. IOW kernel versions p7, p8 and p9 are identical apart from the version number so a binary upgrade doesn't bother changing it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith