From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 30 21:39:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF01A16A41C for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:39:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from voovoos-stable@killfile.pl) Received: from mailhub.media4u.pl (mailhub.media4u.pl [195.136.117.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9741F43D48 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:39:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from voovoos-stable@killfile.pl) Received: from mail.media4u.pl ([212.160.180.13]:63518) by mailhub.media4u.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Do6hB-0007GF-6O for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:35:41 +0200 Received: from voovoos by mail.media4u.pl with local (Exim 4.51) id 1Do6hB-0007GC-4z for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:35:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:35:41 +0200 From: Maciej Wierzbicki To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050630213541.GA26335@mail.media4u.pl> References: <20050630164529.D65760@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630164529.D65760@neptune.atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Maciej Wierzbicki Subject: Re: Two Options: which to choose? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:39:31 -0000 On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:07:59PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: > Removing IPF for 5.4-STABLE seems to have made the boxes stable. I > switched all the firewalls to PF and they haven't crashed since, its been > about 3 days now... (before they were crashing every 12 hours). The similar situation: two boxes with SMP (two physical processors each box). GENERIC kernel works. GENERIC kernel with IPF module or IPF compiled into GENERIC works. After adding SMP either to box with GENERIC with IPF module loaded or to box with IPF compiled into the kernel, boxes crashes regularly. After changing to PF I did not notice single crash for month (production servers with, sometimes, heavy load). My conclusion: I do not know what was wrong, but I could not get non-crashing 5.4 box with IPF. > 1) If I were to put this machine into production, it could crash at any > time for another reason... or maybe the switch to PF hasn't actually > stabalized it, and its just playing games with me. > > 2) If it crashes again, I might lose some responsibilities at work due to > trust and/or "inabilities". I would try FreeBSD with PF anyway. Works perfectly. -- * Maciej Wierzbicki * At paranoia's poison door * * VOO1-RIPE VOO1-6BONE *