Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:55:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom <danial_thom@yahoo.com> To: Jim Stapleton <stapleton.41@gmail.com>, David Hoffman <zionicman@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post Message-ID: <20060621005532.5964.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20606201726u23f50417qa7e0f9a23b919daa@mail.gmail.com>
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--- Jim Stapleton <stapleton.41@gmail.com> wrote: > Mr. Hoffman, I'm surprised this hasn't been > said, and I'm probably > overstepping my bounds by saying this, but I've > been following this > topic, and I have trouble seeing it as anything > but trolling. The > freeBSD groups have always been excessively > helpful and friendly, and > you've done alot to insult and antagonize them > due to the actions of > *ONE* local group, that is not even related to > the general groups you > posted this too. These people on the general > freebsd have a nice group > without the trolling and antagonizing seen all > over other similar > groups. Please be more considerate and > respectful with your claims and > requests so that their forums can stay that > way. > > > > > 3) While you might want to refer to me as a > name-caller, litigious, and > > puerile, it's far from clear that FreeBSD > doesn't have political ties when > > the leaders of FreeBSD groups actively > campaign for partially restricting > > people's ability to communicate in any > language but English. Even if you > > ignored these extracuricular activities, > though, you'd still be faced with > > the fact that FreeBSD is de jure politicized > in favor of many things, > > including free software. > > Interesting you put this here, from a previous > post: > > > I'm not directly attacking your group. If > you're not political, and I'm > > arguing against something political, how > could I possibly be 'attacking' > > your group? > > These two in conjunction, both from you, > technically count as libel I > believe, you are making comments towards a > group, such as calling them > biggots, and then saying you know it's not > true. Also, calling someone > something, when they are not is still > offensive: If I called you a > "rabid dog", obviously a false statement, I am > sure you would be > offended. > > > Also, as to the prohibiting people from > communicating in languages > other than english, partially or otherwise, I'm > sorry, but... A 3/4ths > blind guy who is impatient and doesn't like > spending time searching > for things can find mailing lists for DOZENS of > of languages... Look > harder. Now each of these /IS/ language > specific - but that makes > sense, the idea here is COMMUNICATION. Ich kann > auf Deutch sprechen, > aber hier Ich kann nicht auf Deutch Verbindung > stehen. In english, I > can speak in German, but I cannot communicate > in German here - most > here (not all) don't speak it. I wouldn't go to > a German, French, > Spanish, Japanese, Portugese, etc. etc. etc. > mailing list and expect > them to respond to me in English, or be > anything but offended at my > arrogance of posting there in English. Its not illegal or libelous to dictate an official language, nor is it to call someone a bigot or rascist, since its a subjective opinion that can't be proven one way or another. You can also freely call someone an idiot or a fool, which I do quite often. Most people are bigots, in that they prefer their own language, their favorite OS, their own race, etc. The world cup is prima-fascie evidence of bigotry in the world. Game on! DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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