From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 23 10:43:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7362237BD1B for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:43:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA06294 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:43:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA26228 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:42:12 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA00400; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:43:16 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14554.26052.433543.757976@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:43:16 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly? In-Reply-To: References: <200003231801.KAA01088@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, March 23, Brad Knowles wrote: ] > At 10:01 AM -0800 2000/3/23, Mike Smith wrote: > > > At last count, I think we've bought, borrowed and cajoled about twenty or > > so cards and sent them off to Cameron. I don't know what makes you think > > that we're _entirely_ stupid or greedy, especially since it's not like > > it's a secret or anything that we do this regularly. > > Here's another idea -- make a list of cards that you know of that > there are problems with, but that you guys can't find. Some of us > might happen to frequent computer shows or have some old hardware we > can scrounge up, and might be willing to give that to you (to give to > Cameron), or trade them for X future issues of the CD-ROM sets. > > I certainly don't mind spending $25 (or $50, or $100) to help > support the FreeBSD project, and I don't really care too much how I > spend that money. I'd prefer to spend it in a way that materially > helps the project, and it seems to me that helping to find and donate > bleeding-edge or ancient hardware for which we do not have good > support might be a better way to do that than to buy a subscription > of coasters. Thank you Brad, this is the underlying point of my original message. I guess I didn't state it clearly enough. I wouldn't mind doing the above either. There have been mentions of "why doesn't somebody start a ``hardware for FreeBSD developer's fund''?" on these lists before. I don't really remember the details of the answers received--suffice to say that the jist of the answer was "we already use CD profit sales to buy hardware." If there is simply a communication problem here, let's try to overcome it. i.e. developers *have* hardware but can't find that one "special" card they want--or don't have the resources to get the "latest" card they're dying to tear into. Let's publicize both cases if they exist so that no needless yelling back and forth happens and we can move the project further ahead. Cheers, -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message